[Taz's Master]

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO

smack talk???????????????????



once you shoot a fine tuned spoon YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME! ie. out of the box is generally a joke.


nothing and i mean NOTHING I OWN has NOT been fine tuned by a spoon smith that makes his bread and butter off the models i own.


accurate and repeatable costs. no getting around it.


fit is numero uno. i only buy what fits. unlike when i was a wet nosed kid 30 years ago and thought "tacti-cool". and learned my lessons the hard way.



got a smith................go to a AAA rated smith-smith. nelson ford thegunsmith.com


got an hk..............send it to grayguns aka bruce gray or hk in georgia

got a snotgun(rem/moss/hk/benelli).................go to VANG COMP


got a bolt..................mcmillian


got a semi auto m1a/m-1 garand/m-1 carbine-arrington accuracy/smith ent.


got a 1911...................nelson ford thegunsmith.com


got a subgun?.....................jim hulihan


wanna suppressor? ...............dave fischer


wanna phlanx system? ...............dillon aero/mfg.


wanna .50? ..................mcmillian


lever actions(winnies/marlins) nelson ford the gunsmith.com



its EXACTLY LIKE HORSEPOWER...................HOW FAST(accurate) DO YA WANNA BE????


i dont just look at a spoon for what it is. i look at a spoon, find out if it fits me, test fire if at all possible, go to multiple publications and do research, ask people at matches or just at range their feelings, AND THEN.......................SEARCH EVERY DAMN PUBLICATION AND WEBSITE FOR EVERY DAMN TRICK IN THE BOOK TO MAKE THEM BETTER!



and thats when the gloves come off, finances go to freeking hell and i aint happy until the fat lady sings and the damn bullet goes thru the same hole.



its beyond OCD this sport, and once hooked YOU WILL NEVER BE HAPPY JUST OUT OF THE BOX ACCURATE! you will always strive to make them better. and i am sorry to say some are just flat lemons and need to be culled.



then ya get to sight them in. oh boy here we go with what the hell flavor groups best. then get some wise azz beer drinking friend of yours who reloads, concoct a load for ya to try out and next thing yer chasing yer tail there.


then ya need a spoon case. a spoon cleaning kit. all the spoon chemicals to clean it. then all the user friendly goodies added. and then ya take it to a gumsmithy and he waves his magic wand, and by the time yer done....................usually you have a damn fine shooter that 99.9999% of the time will OUTSHOOT YOU!


its a wicked damn sport, but its better than sex and lasts a lifetime.



and face it guys...................its a YOUNG MANS SPORT for those of US(me) FOUR EYES(wearing glasses) and what i could do in my 20's and what i can do in my 50's are polar opposites. so then..............................ya figure out FINE OPTIKS and go down that trail of tears crapping bengies out yer azz like diarrea searching for the BEST SCOPE! hensoldts/leupolds/zeiss dont come cheap by any stretch.


and on and on it goes and the next thing ya have 3 damn spoon safes in yer living room and wifey is madder than a hornet!




my longest shot ever on a cow elk from 867 yds lasered and witness'd , my point of aim and where point of impact ended up...................i was 1/4" below.



now do you think that damn cow elk felt anything different?????? that damn win m-70 mcmillian .338 w/4.5 x 14 leupold shoots .559 groups all damn day.



my mcmillian m40A1 shoots thru the same hole all damn day. NOBODY ON THE FREEKING PLANET CARES.........................EXCEPT ME! and thats ALL THAT MATTERS! and THATS CONFIDENCE! and CONFIDENCE COSTS MONEY!

I'm not saying what you wrote is wrong, but I'd be willing to bet that more spoons would shoot better if the tuning money were spent on ammo (practice) than on a gunsmith. There are an awful lot of guns that come from the manufacturer outshooting their owner, and the finest smith on the planet won't close that gap like money spent on ammo.