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Originally Posted by m21sniper
Actually, the data you're looking at is for officers that were killed my friend.
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No, just the first two tables were for officer fatality outcomes, there is plenty of data there for all gunfights including where the officer survived. Read the rest of the article.
It makes sense that if you study only "successful" gunfights (officer survives), the hit ratios get higher (maybe that's why the officer survived) and the distances get longer (maybe everyone survived). You're deliberately skewing the sample, so you are skewing the data.
At the extreme, if you select gunfights where the suspect does not survive, I imagine you can get hit ratios up to 100% . . .
Personally, I'd be more interested in what went wrong in the cases where the good guy does not survive.
I'd also caution against drawing strong conclusions from small sample sets. A database of 200 shootings is less informative than a database of 1000s of shootings, is less informative than pooled databases of many 1000s of shootings. That is the nature of statistics. At the extreme, a single sample tells you very little - hence we don't conclude that citizen shootings take place at 100 yds with a rifle.
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Many CCW'ers are trained to a far higher level than the average cop, many of whom are not "gun people" at all, and who never shoot or practice on their own time. Any person carrying a gun should be able to hit a stationary man sized target in his vitals at 25 yards, in my estimation. Any hunter can probably be reasonably expected to outperform the average cop in a gunfighting scenario.
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Some CCW'ers are trained, but most? I'm skeptical.
There's been a boom in buying of CCW guns, and plenty of those people go to the range a couple times and then never practice again - or are the people missing the paper at 6 feet, who we've all seen. Most of the people at my local range aren't even shooting at 25 yards, and they are doing well to hit a dinner plate at 10 yards with slow fire in good light.
I don't know about hunters - don't know enough of them - to say if their proficiency with a scoped bolt-action or an over-under 12 ga carries over to a snubby .38.