Thank you Milt! I've been using a stick for now, and using a "proper" piece stained to match the wood would work out nicely...that's why I come back to this place, great advice! Another question, if I want to leave the door open (say 8") and use another shorter piece of wood, is this still effective? What I mean is, could one close the door and then slam it over and dislodge the stick? I don't want to test on "my" door and that's why I liked the bolt type in the bottom/top of the frame...secure the door partially open and it doesn't move either way. No kids here, and the security screws are in place. BTW, your advice was sorely missed on threads like this during your hiatus sometime back