[jjone20]

Yes, indeed. Not everyone works a 2-2-1. But everyone in ATC does bid their schedule, so they know what they are going to be working. So on your quick turn day (night to day) do you stay out, or do you get to bed to get up at 6. See, I don't dispute the science on fatigue, but I think in the ATC world much of it is self inflicted. As for pilots, I think they get hosed by company on a regular basis. The issue with pilots is, as far as I know, so many people are desperate to do the job that they will try and make anything work to get their hours - a la Buffalo. And the companies have taken advantage of that. Especially the RJ folks. Mike, are you ATC now?