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Originally Posted by BRPORSCHE View Post
What do you feel is the sole measurement of a man?

Had a little argument at work and I feel that successs, any type of success, is the sole measurement of a man. Now some of my coworkers, the women, feel that the sole purpose of a man is to be child bearing.

I disagree. Granted I am an extremely selfish person, because I don't want to have kids. I understand the attraction, but I just don't want my own.

What do you think? Or do you feel that successs in life is having kids?
If you want to turn their reason on them (unless they are nuts), you could always as them if they consider a guy that has 10 kids by 6 or 7 different women and doesn't provide financial support for any of them the ultimate man because by their standards, he would have measured up into the top few percent of men.

^That's ridiculous.

I think measuring "success" would be very difficult unless you limited it to a specific sort of success (financial or business would be what normally comes to mind)

Personally, I think the measure of a man could be success, but it is not the sole measure. I'm sure there are men who have been evil to get to the top, and while they may have been wildly successful, did not measure up well as men.

I think the measure of a man doesn't necessarily need to involve anything financial. I prefer to include some virtue in with the measure of a man. A man who lives an honest life, works well at whatever he does, does right by others, generous/helpful, etc.... To me, that sort of man would be a man to measure up against.

I believe you could have high powered business men who measure up and who don't. I believe you could probably have monks (Christian, Buddhist, whatever) who do and don't measure up.

Hell, you could probably start with this... "trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly,
courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent." It may not be the best list, but it's probably a really good place to start.
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