Cam,
You might want to read this from the Washington Times. It illustrates the way the anti-gunners selectively choose their data to embelish their position.
http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20021201-5316652.htm
Beyond that, the rate of violent crime has increased in the UK since firearms were banned. In the US, the violent crime rate has decreased over the past 20 years as gun ownership has soared. The tables - of course - don't show these trends.
"- everyone carries a gun - no-one gets shot
- no-one carries a gun - no-one gets shot
Which is going to be the case?"
I've never heard of anyone in the US promoting gun ownership by everyone!!!!!!!!! What is being promoted is gun ownership by mentally competent law-abiding citizens and no guns for law-breaking scumbags - that would be the ideal situation. "No-one carries a gun" is simply not a possibility. And even if it were, consider this: 200 years ago an English researcher found, "Even without guns, New Yorkers still managed to outstab and outkick ... Londoners by a multiple of 5.6!" Yikes.
-- Curt