[fred cook]

Both are antiques, made before 1898. You should be able to buy a cardboard box or better yet, go to a gun store and see if they will give you a suitable rifle box. Then, make certain that the guns are properly packed and ship them to yourself via USPS or UPS. If nothing else works, go find a refrigerator box and cut out one side. That should give you enough cardboard to make a box. For extra protection, you could sandwich the rifle between two thin pieces of wood. The key here is good packing. Or, you could google "antique guns" and look for a vendor that sells extra long hard cases for rifles such as yours. There are bound to be some sources for reenactors, etc. Good luck!