[cgarr]

Usually if you cant make the pain go away no matter what position you try it may be a stone. Drink lots of water and watch for red pee.... I have had many and only one was a different pain, more in the groin area than the lower back side but still they are a pain. Don't be far from an e-room. My last trip in was so bad I told the wife to slow down then blow the red lights!