[Normy]

Originally Posted by svandamme

maybe stomping on a dead horse here.....but..... :
If you knew ONE thing about Porsche 928's, then you'de know that your 928S2 is either a Right hand drive car from the UK market, or not a 928S2 at all

You do realize that the S2, officially was a UK only name for the UK market 928S? And even then Porsche did no use that designation anywhere.. There are no decals for it..

It's not entirely clear from your signature, you say 85 928S2
But , i doubt you sit on the right side of your car when driving.. do you?

Does the model bade in the rear actually say "928S2" ? Did it come with that badge from the factory?

So what car do you actually drive?


Year Model Disp. Power Notes
1978-1982 928 4.5l 219 hp Electronic fuel injection debuts in 1980.
1980-1982 "Euro S" 4.7l 300 hp 928 S becomes available in Europe only with a 300 hp 4.7l engine. U.S. receives Competition Package in 1981 w/ S spoilers but not the motor.
1983-1984 928 S 4.7l 234/310 hp U.S./Euro spec.
1985-1986 928 S 5.0l 288 hp New DOHC U.S. motor with 4 valves per cylinder. Euro S continues with 310 hp SOHC 4.7l motor.
1987-1991 928 S4 5.0l 316 hp First of the new body style. "S4 brakes": 11.97" brake rotors w/ 4-piston calipers introduced on late '86 models. Difficult to adjust dual-disc clutch replaced with single disc unit.
1989-1991 928 GT 5.0l 326 hp Computer-controlled limited slip differential derived from technology pioneered on the 959. 5-speed only. Tightest 928 suspension.
1992-1995 928 GTS 5.4l 345 hp 1992 only available in Europe after mid-year. "GTS brakes": 12.68" rotors with still larger 4-piston calipers.

Hmm, no S2 in that list..

Let's try another one

Model 1984 USA
VIN Start: WPOAAO92xES860001 VIN End: WPOAAO92xES863067
Type: 928S
Engine: 4664cc 242hp 16valve
Engine Code: M28/21 (5 speed manual) / M28/22 (4 speed auto)
Injection: L-Jetronic
Model 1985 EURO
VIN Start: WPOZZZ92ZFS8n0001 VIN End: WPOZZZ92ZFS8nnnnn
Type: 928S2
Engine: 4664cc 310hp 16valve Twin Distributor
Engine Code: M28/21 (5 speed manual) / M28/22 (3 speed auto)
Injection: LH-Jetronic

No S2 either when i look in PET


Didn't they unofficially call the 5.0 32 valve 928 an S3 instead of S2?

It's not that clear in your sig Norm, which one is yours, an 84 model year born in early 85.
Or an 85 model year born in late 85? ROW or US model

Very difficult , those little details, especially if people start labeling their car with a model designation that officially did not even exist for LHD cars..and even that wasn't so official.

So, not to be funny or anything, but you might wanna put some more info in your signature before you can tell folks off when they are unclear about your car having an O2 sensor or not,
at least if you want to tell them off based on the "It says so in my signature" argument.

Especially so because there actually WAS a 928 with 02 sensor in just about every model year during the 80'ies and your sig does not mention having a CAT or not, or an O2 or not.
Your sig doesn't even tell if it's a Euro 4.7 or the weaker 4.7/5.0 US car.
Quite frankly, the only thing your sig seems to tell, is that your car is no longer stock..Which means it's not about "Porsche" knowledge anymore.
Just that it's a modded car and it could have all sorts of non standard features that have nothing to do with how Porsche actually built it.


Might wanna add the engine code to your sig now.. that'll make it a whole lot more obvious for those with or without "Porsche" knowledge.

First of all, you are correct. I am indeed calling my Austrian model [country code C11] an "S2". S2's were twin distributor 2-valve 928S models from years 1984, 1985, and 1986 that were marketed in the United Kingdom. And you are also correct in that they were only marketed that way by Porsche in the United Kingdom. That indeed, makes my car a 928S, instead of a 928S2.

My VIN: WP0ZZZ92ZFS841526.

Go ahead and decode it.

-I like to use the UK model name because there isn't any other name for the twin-distributor 2 valve '84-'86's. Back in 2002, I started using that name for my car on Rennlist, and it has kind of caught on. Most people these days know that the term "S2" is the number of the beast, and also know what it means. The only difference between a UK S2 and an Austrian S2 is the drive side. Everything else is the same.

NOW; As to your character assassination....let's talk about your post:

* I'm puzzled about your attack. And YES it was an attack. I held you folks at Brussels Center in high regard; perhaps I was WRONG.

* There is no term "you'de" in the English language. You are wrong.

* John Speake, who is famous for rebuilding MAF's , has the designation "928S2" on the back of his personal car. YES there is a PORSCHE sticker that says 928S2, with the "S2" in open letters. Here's a reference for a picture of this sticker: "The Essential Buyers Guide Porsche 928" by David Hemmings. If you look at the bottom of page 12 there is a clear picture of the Porsche 928S2 sticker. Once again, you are wrong.

* Porsche NEVER called any 928 an "S3". This is an enthusiast designation, designed to designate the early 32 valve cars. Again....WRONG!

* My engine code is M28-21, with the engine serial number 82F00516.

Some more details of the code sticker in my trunk [and the matching one in my original, German language owners manual:

928 920

M2821-82F G2810-11F

L700 99

C11 S

Now that we've established that you are lacking in knowledge and cannot spell, since YOU obviously have such a MONSTROUS knowledge of Porsche cars and their mechanicals, why don't YOU go ahead and tell my why I am getting vapor lock on hot days. Come on Porsche expert...talk to me! PLEASE don't clear any conflicting traffic to the same flight level while you are doing it-

N!

PS: By the way, REAL Belgans Frans spreken-