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combatic - what was your issue with the motive?
dad911,
Here are my problems with the Motive Universal Power Bleeder + pushing fluid rather than sucking it at the brake.

1. If the seal between the Universal Motive and your reservoir fails during bleeding it blows brake fluid all over your trunk/engine compartment! The large seal is created by wrapping a chain around the reservoir using J-bolts and wing nuts. This puts stress on the reservoir connections, is hard to keep located to maintain the seal and with such a large surface area ultimately fails. In theory it is a one size fits all solution.
NOTE- Motive does make 'caps' that screw to your specific reservoir for a better seal but they are added cost and how many of us have multiple vehicles to include bikes which means you would need to use a different adapter for each.

2. If the Motive reservoir runs low it injects air into your system under pressure!

3. You risk contamination transfering fresh brake fluid to the Motiv container.This method could lead to contamination if you are not careful and start with a clean Motiv reservoir. (this isn't high risk but it adds steps and what do you do with the leftover in the Motive container???)

4. Motive is only for brake bleeding. The MityVac system allows you to suck any oil out of any car reservoir or container. ( I use it all the time, power steering fluid, emptying drain pans, diffs, etc)

5. You can not suck up all the nasty stuff in your reservoir before bleeding with a Motive. Mityvac can...so you don't push particulate all the way through your lines.

Once I used the Mityvac, all the fusiness, mess and headache went away and made me stop and say, 'What a great product!!!!'. The above is just my personal experience. I am sure you can push brake fluid with no problems....there is always more than one way to skin a cat! I would like to hear someone else's pro & con's.
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