They speak the truth. I have been known to drive my BMW E21 like a maniac on certain roads and it only had about 100 hp when it left the factory 29 years ago. And the suspension is just the very soft stock setup. Still is a hoot, though. A lot of that is from the manual gearbox, though. And unassisted steering.
And the 911? Forgetabaoutit. It is a case of seeing the speed limit is 45 on that twisty canyon road, then doing that everywhere, including the 15mph corners.
Cars like that beg to be driven fast.