[Flieger]

I must say, however, that I feel even moreso now that it is a waste of time going into parf because most of the people just want to prove their view and not to look for truths or engage in any sort of civil argument.

All the talk of "innate knowledge" and "the natural light" in the class brings up the thought of one poster in my mind. I am reconsidering that the whole concept is hogwash now.