[QUOTE=Jim Bremner;6954587]
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Originally Posted by JavaBrewer
HK, FN SCAR, or the M-14 (M1A-Scout)? Would love to add a .308 someday (sooner perhaps) but not anxious to shell out for the ammo. Any reason to not go with the scout (my first choice)?[/
What range are you wanting? I have the full size M1a and it is a lazer. shorter barrel will be louder! and might slow the bullet downs some. The range might drop as well.
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its all ABOUT what YOU want it for.
my springfield custom shop super match w/mcmillian stock, 4.5 x 14 mil dot illiminated reticle with QD scope mt, which since has had arrington accuracy FINE TUNE IT cost me more than i ever want to add up the receipts. but its insane accurate scoped or iron sighted. i mean 1000 match insane accurate. i dont take it hunting unless i plan on sitting in my hide all day. humping it is a PITA, and on the quad its too big for my case, so if i put it on my quad i have to put it into its big hard case which negates getting to it quickly.
my socom 16 totally sadlak'd and running match sights instead of goofy ghost ring, is also a tack driver but it looses velocity because of short barrel. lets call it a very good 500-600 yd spoon . have nailed elk with it, and it puts them down hard. running or standing. its more of a brush spoon and it goes on the front handlebars of quad as a "snap shot" spoon. packs plenty of punch. also went with me into big bear country into jellystone, i am not hunting them. if i was i wouldnt use it, only because i have bigger medicine for them if i got a tag. in the event of a brown bear jumping my azz, i use 168gr federal BTHP. YOU DO NOT WANT TO USE ANY HEAVIER GRAIN BULLET on M-14's unless its dedicated to 175gr or 180gr. ask me how i know?? because you will have a FTE when yer extractor goes spinning off into space. and then yer REALLY SCREWED IF A BEAR IS CHARGING!
there isnt a bear alive on this planet that can take 6 rds of 168gr BTHP's and live to tell about it. and thats the hole point, if charged, i want ALL THE MARBLES IN MY BASKET. also i brought the 45/70 with buffalo bore 405 grs.
the scout is longer and will do the same thing with the samo parts available for it to simply build it into a tack driver. just look at sadlakmfg.com
my younger son bought the M1-loaded with black stock. ended up getting a ex USA shooting team mcmillian f/glass stock for it. bedded the hole enchilada by arringtonaccuracy.com here. its a hell of a shooter with 147 and 168 grs. national match flashhider,trigger job, hand fitted match sights, match sling,sadlak goodies.
simple secret right from the horseys mouth phil arrington(arringtonaccuracy.com) for m-14 accuracy. put yer moola to do the hula here:
1) f/glass stock bedded
2) match sights hand fitted(hand fitted IS a big deal) so they always go click
3) trigger job
with that yer ready for any game and any match. and yer LEGAL match shooting.
hunting/match shoots w/ detachable scope=long barrel
brush hunting w/out scope or maybe a red dot=shorter barrels
shooting thru walls or buildings in iraq or afghan=either barrel.
i love 'em. once ya suck up yer huevos and take the plunge and LEARN ALL ABOUT THEM and tear them down to the firing pin..............you will be a happy camper. once ya do it, its not so complicated. samo as a M-1 carbine, just bigger.
buy all tools from sadlak or brownells or arrington accuracy and yer set to go.
hell most matches are a max of 50rds + 5 sighters=55rds. so what ya spent $55 bucks for a day of fun with 3 of yer amigos as a team.
or buy crap surplus 147 ammo, buy some federal 168gr BTHP bulk bullets, buy a dillon bullet puller, and pull the 147 bullet out and seat the 168gr bullet and ya got MESSIKAN MATCH AMMO!
but heres a breakdown in the field under combat conditions(worst of the worst).
HK G-3/91= NO tools to take down to firing pin. NONE!
M-14=tools
FN=tools
it comes down to what fits ya best. and how much moola to do the hula.
HK PSG-1=a mere $12,000 bucks + zeiss scope
the baddest M-14 on the planet= i would guess btwn $4-$6000 + scope
FN= i dont know so i wont say.
each are unique in their own way.