[Captain Ahab Jr]

Henry, I thought when you started this thread you we were discussing Alonso and Adrian Newey and Vettel only had a bit part so why all the meaningless statistics.

Of course he will have lots of 'youngest' records as he was groomed by the Reddbull Drivers Academy from when he wa a tiny little baby. I was at Monza when he won in the Torro Rosso, I'll admit that was impressive

As correctly mentioned a lot of Vettels success is down to the car and Adrain Newey and the team built around him.

Lets see how the young guy gets on in another team with a car that is not the quickest or difficult to setup/drive or neeeds a lot of development.

Alonso is easily the best driver out there then closely behind is Kimi, followed by Vettel and Hamilton, then Button and Webber and Massa.

Its ok to be a Vettel fan you don't have to feel any shame or try to justify your choice and I'll leave you to believe what you want to believe but I'll stick to what I know and have seen.