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Really? My experience is the exact opposite. I know several people whose kids have issues, from as mild as ADHD right up to full-blown schizophrenia (committed suicide due to it). In all these cases the parents have not only recognized and admitted their child has a problem, but have been quite open about it.

My wife is an elementary school teacher and both my kids are in public elementary school, so this subject is obviously pretty important to me. Just looking at some stats last night, this school shooting thing is nothing new, it's been going on for decades, but it has indeed dramatically increased in the last 10-15 years. In the US, it seems to occur most frequently in small towns, or bedroom communities. Here in Canada, it seems confined to our major cities. Around the world, shootings occur almost exclusively in high schools and colleges, mostly high schools.

But the most important stat, IMO, is that school shootings occur in the US far more than anywhere else. I didn't count, but it might even be more than the rest of the world combined. If not, it's certainly close. There's something about the US that makes this occur more often, and I think that's what needs to be the target of any investigation, discussion, soul searching, etc. Why does it happen there so much more than anywhere else? And this is a question that MUST transcend political beliefs, ideologies and religion. This is more important than ideology, pro- or anti-gun beliefs, religious thoughts, shame or embarrassment over mental health issues, or political beliefs regarding funding them. All that needs to be pushed aside to arrive at REAL, HONEST answers to difficult questions.

As soon as the discussion gets caught up in politics, the issue will die, as will more children.
Good points made. We have more than 300M people in the US , so we'll have more violent crime. Norway had a similar horrific shooting last year and 77 were killed and Norway has about 4m people. We do not have a "mental health system" in the US, so mentally ill/emotionally disturbed people do not receive effective treatment and a certain percentage of these people may commit violent crimes. My wife is also a teacher and she sees this daily and my father and brother are both retired LEO's and they have both seen it. The root cause is untreated mental illness.... We must treat these people or this will continue... There should be no shame in admitting that you or someone you love is mentally or emotionally ill, it's an illness, no different from a physical ailment and may in fact have a physical cause.
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