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Originally Posted by jyl
I was listening last night to the live report from the reporter (CBS, Evans) who was close to the house, I recall him mentioning police loudspeakers, I also recall he reported the single gunshot after gas was fired. When I search news articles today, they all say police used a loudspeaker to tell Dorner to surrender and come out. I don't have any reason to think that is made up. The reporter was very close to the action, check out the videos online.
Police found a gas mask in his truck. He'd also used a smoke device in the gunfight with the deputies. So they'd assume he had gas masks in the cabin.
They first used "cold gas" canisters. Then they used "hot gas", the police slang for which is "burners". The burners emit more gas.
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That seems to me, after watching the thing live, to be a very likely scenario.
This really has nothing to do with the Fifth Amendment. The Fifth Amendment gives due process rights, but only to those who are living. There are tons of situations where you could end up dead, with the cops acting reasonably. "Suicide by cop" happens all the time.
But again, I don't think any of us know all the salient facts yet.