[fred cook]

maybe when I was 20, but the ole legs would give out long before the steps did! One of the hardest things that I have ever done was the first time I rappelled (sp?) into a very deep black hole in a cave. Kicking off the top with your life depending on a rope took everything I had and that bad boy was only 3-400 feet deep! Not being able to see the bottom didn't help much!