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40 together is usually faster then a city bus. Can we look at them as a city bus and wait for a clearing to pass? This is going no where, there are good drivers and good cyclist who actually follow the law. We are just stereotyping here. I don't do much group rides these days and my racing days are over some time ago. When I did, we were doing about 30+mph on the flats. People get upset because they want to go faster then that but can't get around them. There is no wrong or right here. I have been on both sides. I know what it is like having to ride on the side of the road with broken glass that can cut a tire. some of those tires cost more then a regular car tire. Hell, you wouldn't drive your 911 on it. Tell you this, I rather drive along side or behind a group of experience riders then the few that don't know what the heck they are doing on a bike. I can predict exactly what they will do in a certain situation because there are group rules that are unknown or never apply to drivers. For example, 40 riders going around a pot hole or a park car onto another lane (#1 lane, still going the same direction)to avoid breakage of a wheel that can cause major accident. in a driver's eye, they are taking up the all the lanes. would you go around a rock on the road in your 911?
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