[flipper35]

Bill, I hear you there. When I was at Spragues in Yuma they had factory reloads for $12.50 a box. They would group about 4-5 inches at 25. We tried some of the expensive defensive loads and they were far worse. WWB weren't bad either and they had some higher end 230gr ball that the range master said shot really well. I never had the chance to shoot a 1911 at the moving plates yet. I did shoot dad's 1908 at the star at 15 yards. That was humbling. Of course the 1908 is fractional mor (minute of refrigerator). Great pocket gun though. I would take the 1908 over a PPK.

On your comp, I do like 2 things about the revolver, the 6" barrel gives me a decent sight radius for my getting old eyes and the crisp break on the trigger firing single action. Plus it is pretty darn accurate with anything I put in the cylinder, including cheap .38 special wadcutters. Plus, I grew up on revolvers.

Jeff, my brother in law has a Remmy. It was OK but it didn't feel "special". Don't know how to describe it.

Got it narrowed down to DW which is as expensive but have yet to hear anything bad about them anywhere, Ruger which will save some money, or the Kimber in my post. It has to be blued or a dark color. Just a personal preference.