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So the choices are:
1). Jail and reform, then release back into society.
2). Destroy immediately as non-reformable.
3). Jail and torture under inhumane conditions, then release back into society.

What catagory does this individual fall under?
Given the extent of his dual methodology, I'd think #2, FWIW.

But you two are arguing #3.
That removes determination of punishment from the victim, and gives it to the state. The victim achieves nothing, except maybe having his/her damaging experience taken away by a complex and expensive political system beyond his/her control but knowing "something is being done".

Moreover, a harsh prison environment creates predators and prey.
a). The predators get stronger and are well fed until released back into society. They make babies and teach friends in the meantime. Do you still like that system?
b). The prey get damaged and become useless. Or self-fufill option#2. Or learn the methods of the predators. They could be your children arrested for a little pot.
c). Meanwhile, the US prison system is the largest and most expensive per capita. It produces the next generation of criminals or broken worthless people.
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