[CamB]

Jurgen

Just to echo my points on the other threads. We don't know if pacifism is working with North Korea. There is a difference between sabre-rattling and actions. As an alternative, second guessing then taking a hard line approach also seems to incite the situation.

And no, you can't pack up and leave Afghanistan. Once these things are started they can't be done half-assed. All the more reason to be wary of starting them.