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Originally Posted by speeder View Post
And keeping guns out is only one part of an overall, common sense, ass hole reduction strategy.
Do you propose metal detectors at the door? Bad guys don't obey the law and they certainly don't obey gunbusters signs, which don't carry much more than the threat of a trespassing cite.

It's been legal in AZ for about three years and with a bunch of silly conditions and exceptions that got the bill passed when the NRA got involved and screwed it all up. You must have a CCW to carry in a place that serves for on-premise consumption, no open carry. (You don't need a permit to CCW in AZ otherwise.) If the venue wants to ban guns, they have to have a very specific, state-issued sign at the door and next to the liquor license, and you are allowed to walk in to look for said sign or pick up your take-out order before you're considered in violation. Here's the kicker - the law does not apply to non-AZ residents. So a cool-head like Speeder could legally carry in a guns-banned bar here, while a real hothead like myself cannot.

That said, I've never heard of a single incident. The worst that can happen, if you get made, is they ask you to leave and, if you make a stink, you get a trespassing cite and take your business elsewhere.

You can't drink while armed, but you can have a .07 BAC and be perfectly legal behind the wheel, driving home from the bar AND armed. That keeps us all safe, eh?
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