[masraum]

Originally Posted by widgeon13

masraum, that's because you paid attention in school and probably had some good teachers. I don't think most eighth graders today could answer most of those questions.

Actually, I hope I'm wrong but think not. I don't think many HS kids could pass that test especially inner city public schools.

You can't force someone to learn. If society or subculture thinks that learning is not cool and they try not to learn.... Yes, I'm sure there are lots of kids who would not pass.

My DIL is a 3rd grade teacher and very dedicated to the profession but in NYS they have some problems. She is in special ed and those students still have to take the same tests as all others. She said most special ed kids just sign their name and leave with tears in their eyes. The teachers are instructed not to give any assistance to any student, not even supposed to speak with the student. That is just not right.

Not supposed to assist or talk to the kids during a test or any time?

Yes, there are definitely issues with some of the education systems these days. The whole "no child left behind" thing is a problem. I guess it was born of good intentions and is now being used to pave the road to hell. Some people just aren't that smart, just like some folks are naturally athletic and some are naturally pretty. Unfortunately, a good education these days probably means being in a private school or living in a good school district (not to mention having parents that care and get involved).