[RWebb]

mountaineering catalog called Early Winters used to shoot 100 yards from one of my bird study areas in the North Cascades

I also knew a female wilderness ranger who knew the founder well - she said he was nuts, a wierdo, etc. - he used to drive an old 1930s expensive touring car up to the pass from Seattle - pretty risky I guess as one place was called Deadhorse Point for very good reasons...

so not all are done in studios or faked - check out a Patagucchi catalog sometime - outdoors people used to send in their own photos for the catalog