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Originally Posted by john rogers
- Selling any gun that uses a cartridge, even a relic or antique or buying one from a private seller requires a FFL if it crosses state lines. If you sell one then it is federal law that comes into play he noted and even states with very lax laws require the FFL. If selling, make sure to get a copy of the FFL and if the license holder says no, something is fishy! What happens at the other end is on the FFL
such as wait times, etc.
- If you have a FFL or a curio and relic license then you can receive the gun and if old enough then the C&R can be used.
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Interesting. John, this has not been my experience at all. I think your FFL is just being extra cautious, which is fine - no one gets in trouble that way. When in doubt, just follow the most stringent rules.
With a life-long interest in old single shots, lever guns, and single actions, I have purchased and sold more than a few across state lines over the last 30 years. Many of my buddies and acquaintances with whom I share this interest have as well. If the arm in question is old enough to qualify as a curio or relic, we have never once gone through FFL's. Many of those with whom I regularly deal are FFL holders who also deal in modern arms, and they quite happily send old guns right to my home. Anybody's home. And these guys have a vested interest in keeping that FFL, so they are not going to try anything even remotely questionable.
I have never heard of a "Curio and Relic" license. Not that that means there isn't one - I've just never heard of one. How do these work? Who issues them (BATFE)? I would find it most odd that one would have to be licensed to deal in items that do not require a license to own. Could this be for older machine guns (Gatling or Maxim, etc.), or stuff like that? I've certainly never heard of it in the context of the antique civilian arms in which I'm interested.
Oh, and Bob - any muzzle loader, regardless of vintage, can be shipped by anyone. Even brand new cap'n'ball revolvers. They are not considered "firearms" under the GCA of 1968.