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Originally Posted by black73

Right, again! There are laws preventing discrimination and retaliation in the workplace, thanks to organized labor. As unions lose influence, the laws become weaker. Coincidence? I don't think so, since it is the same politicians that seek to weaken or destroy the unions are the same ones that are erasing the protection laws from the books.

Totally separate entities, taking credit for government programs further shows that you are simply another Kool-Aid drinker. The industrial revolution was a long time ago, and the government (not unions) is the primary entity now responsible for workplace safety.

Originally Posted by rattlsnak

As stated, there are many cases of corrupt union activities. I get it. But there are many many more stories of good activities and protection in aviation. People who say unions aren't needed today are on crack. They are need more today than ever. In certain industries. You would not want to fly on an airline whose pilots are not unionized. Trust me. I just got furloughed last summer and the union contract SAVED countless jobs. The company is downsizing in a major way and was out to do that process in anyway they saw fit, as in furloughing out of seniority order, displacing people to other air frames out of order which would mean huge pay cuts for many, etc. I could go on and on. That union also protected many pilots against management's wrong doings like firing guys for writing up "too many MX concerns", etc. Geez, don't get me started...

That being said, do I think the baggers at Ralphs need a union? No. Cetain other industries, absolutely.

Seniority is a total joke, it simply serves to protect the under performers that have been in place the longest. The company has the right to eliminate the dead weight, regardless how long they have been there. Our union shop has a significant number of "retired in place" individuals who know that they are protected under seniority, total joke. Work hard or go home.