[RKDinOKC]

My idea of drifting on pavement is when ALL FOUR tires are at a 8° to 15° slip angle, if you lift off the throttle the car rotates more instead of straightening out, if you increase throttle the car pushes to go straighter, and steering input is minimal unless you mess up then it is turning into the skid to keep from spinning out.

The only time I've really ever tried to do the rear end drifting is when the autocross course does a 180° turn around a single cone where the turning radius is so small you are doing more of a bootlegger turn (changing direction of travel 180° within the width of a 2 lane road) than going around a curve.