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In Ilford's book on Perfomance Driving were it talks about slip angles and going around corners the fastest he uses ice racing as the example where a super high slip angle is the fastest way around the corner due to the slick surface. When he asked a famous Scandinavian racer how he learned to hang the rear out so far, the racer said, "Much practice, and many many cars."

Watch some show on drifting where a team prepped a late model 996 for drifting. They said power was NOT the issue, but re-designing the front suspension to turn the wheels far enough when counter-steering to keep the car from spinning out was the most difficult part of car prep. I remember the big honking b rear brake level coming up from the back seat area between the front seats to just behind the gear shift.