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I schit you not. I'm about ready to toss my 20 or 30 pairs of old tired, stretched out ragged briefs and start with new boxer/briefs! I'll check out the local department store and see what they have and maybe try a pair or two. But I've got to tell you the Duluth ones are really nice. I could pull the trigger on $300 worth easily. And I'm a 60 year old ex-Marine!
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