[JD159]

Not sure where I assumed that those who insist on their kids paying their own freight and starting out with a beater are selfish or thoughtless.

I'm sure what constitutes a beater is relative. We sold 500 dollar cars that I drove and did not feel comfortable driving, but did not have door dings or ratty paint. They weren't safe.

I also drive a 98 Honda as my "beater". It has airbags, little rust, dings but well maintained and feels solid. I bought it for 1k. I wouldn't call it a beater, but some would. I also know its history, as its family owned.

What I am saying is that if my kid, supposing they are not rotten careless dumbasses, haven't been able to find or save enough for a car that is relatively safe, I'll pony up a extra dollars until it meets a better safety standard.

Please don't assume that my idea of a beater is exterior, when it is in fact mechanical soundness. Everyone has some learning to do. My 944 has taught me a lot, and it only continues to do so. It probably always will.