Cam, while I don't run with those guys I do use their website as a useful tool in deciding which way I'm taking to the beach from the valley. Those roads are pretty much within 20 minutes of me and I've done nearly all of 'em
. I don't condone street racing and I don't "race" up the canyon, but if I'm by myself or with a friend we'll usually drive non-competitively but aggressively up the canyon.
