[Richard Foy]

I don't mind 'off subject posts', but I would like to suggest we all review our messages before we do post them, putting ourselves in the other guys shoes in the process.
It's hard to guess what is in the other guys(ladys) head...we need more details, like .year????.,model???..and a bit more effort at using better overall discriptions of the problems history, or changes in the car just before this or that happened......(actually I like the one about, "my battery went dead because my radiator fan was stuck on, what's wrong?"...ha ha...even I can answer that one!