[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

Spot-on.

I also believe that it's pointless to be part of an institution that purports to be based on trust, mutual understanding, love, etc. and then need such a thing. If a pre-nup is required to protect onesself from the other person then it calls those founding tenets into question. Basically the whole rationale for marriage gets undermined so as I've said before, why bother? What does it really accomplish? What's the point?

Our societal values are totally incompatible with the classical notion of what marriage is or should be, which is probably why so many fail and those that don't result in mere tolerance on the part of the participants (really, how many people are together for no reason other than convenience or because they don't want to bother going through a potentially bitter, contentious and expensive divorce?)

It's outlived its usefulness in the context of our society, or perhaps our society is totally wrong (another discussion). Regardless, it isn't compatible with the way we live in this day, age and place.

I agree with the first paragraph. After all, how confident are you in the marriage that you are already preparing for divorce?

As for the rest, I'm sure many of the divorced crowd will agree wholeheartedly. Personally I think a good marriage reflects all that is good about humanity - trust, honesty, love, patience, kindness, etc. I am a better person in every possible way thanks to my wife.

Originally Posted by Dueller

You never really know a woman until you meet her in court.

Timely moment for you to reappear!

Originally Posted by Seahawk

A few of my friends who have gone through a divorce echoed those sentiments precisely. I am aware it is a two way street but the women in question went after these guys with vengeance bordering on glee.

To paraphrase Croce: ...when they pulled them from the court room floor
they looked like a jigsaw puzzle, with a couple of pieces gone.

I believe that would be an example of, "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".