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Originally posted by speeder
They can be alright, just make sure to spring (sorry) for the upgraded mattress, the really thick one w/ the springs in it. All futon mattresses are not created equal. 
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When a futon becomes a "mattresses (a really thick one w/ the springs in it" is it still a futon?
I'll add this: experienced skiers and hikers know not to wear cotton socks, as the cotton will turn hard as rock when it gets damp from persperation. In my experience, futons (mostly cotton) also end up hard as a rock in no time.