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Jeff- Just noticed the thread. Sorry to hear and hope your recovery is swift.

(Just a quick note on group rides. More so than cars its the unknown of other riders that's most discerning. Some may look experienced and have the gear, but are not who you want to ride with.

We've had a 'popo' female who also competes in tri events occasionally join in. Pretty tough but can't keep on the wheel safely. She went down hard while following another and blamed him. I didn't see it but heard both sides of the story. The front rider was adamant about it and let her know.

Anyhow, she ended fairly busted up, fractured ribs and who knows what else. Was on the way to healing, a few later joined in on another ride with us. I watched her and could see her lack of smoothness, lots of side to side, mixed cadence - shifting. Scary to ride near her. I don't doubt her competitiveness, has a high end bike and wheels, but does need major discipline or coaching in cycling.

It could be an unfriendly wall built between two, but that rider who took you down needs to be told and aware of how it happened.)