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Originally Posted by nostatic
So in other words, some of you reject the US Constitution and instead prefer "old west" justice. Because: 1) stuff is more important than people and/or 2) someone stealing my stuff today might rape or kill someone down the road.
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This is incredibly weak, especially for you, Todd. While a couple of us have already addressed your fist "point" (such as it is
), you need to read and understand the following:
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Originally Posted by Linderpat
Um, reread it ; the US Constitution was designed to protect me, the individual, from encroachments of the state. It was not designed to protect a scum bag from the consequences of his actions by another individual. You have no protected liberty rights on my property, particularly if you are uninvited and do me or mine harm, or steal my stuff. Horse theives were routinely shot with impunity under "old west" justice. Consequences? Fewer horse theives.
And yes, my stuff is more important thant the thief who wants to steal it. You of course miss the point entirely - it isn't about the "stuff" - it's what the stuff represents. Hard work/honest labor, receiving value for creating something positive of value. People who want to simply take it from you are the lowest form of vile scum, and represent the greatest threat to a civilized society.
I would have let the homeowner off had I been on the jury.
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We have the right to protect ourselves and, yes, our hard earned property from those who would harm us or take it.
It strikes me that many of you are treating these as isolated incidences, as the juries were forced to do with the courts barring admission of these kids' juvenile pasts. These were ongoing problems in both cases; ongoing problems that our authorities either could not or would not bring to an end. No one should have to live under the continuing depredations of criminals, an ongoing fear of wondering when they will strike next, and the fear of wondering how far it will have to go before the authorities can or will do something about it.