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The Vin# up through 67 Were just blocks of numbers. It had nothing to do with the engine. Just which coach builder built the body.

The 68 on, designated what the car was and the second position number on a 68 was a one or a two for the 911 was 118 and the 912 was 128. The only way on a pre68 car is memorizing the Vin#'s or have the list of Vin#'s with you.

However, according to the factory lists, only Karmann built coaches for the 912's before 68. But there are 911's with Karmann Vin#'s that have 911's DMV registrations. One, I saw many years ago, was the original owner's car. Though, I understand that you could, at one time, register a car through the Texas DMV and cleanup and change the title.

Anyway the body will continue to be a Porsche and whatever engine you put into it. The way it was designated in the past was maker of the body/ maker of the engine. examples: Porsche/Subaru, VW/Porsche, Ford/Chevy, Jaguar/Chevy, AC/Ford, BRM/Coventry and etc.

A factory can embrace the combination as one of their own, such in the case of the AC/Ford. Shelby change it to the AC/Cobra and The FMC embraced it as the Ford Cobra. In Which case opposite occurred, the engine builder took over the coach builder as their own. They also did the same with the GT40.

The difference between the Outlaw and the Renegade.

The Outlaw is a customized type 356 that keeps the factory or variation of factory engine. The term was originally coined by Gary Emory. For he was also the first to customized a 356. He father was also a early California Hot Rod customizer from the 40's and 50's.

The Renegade is a later customized Porsche with or without a factory engine. Most will have VW or Japanese engines, there are several also with the 350 Chevy engine.

The Polo engine is a possible designed that Porsche had an idea about if they continued with their four cylinder line. They had considered a new overhead cam four cylinder engine. They choose to drop it and pickup the VW sports car designated as the VW/Porsche (VW being the coach and Porsche the engine) in Europe and as the 914 over here.

The only way that VW could sell the car and get under the new federal regs for passenger cars was to sell it as a Porsche sports car, hence the 914 designation. It may have been one of the reason the 912 was dropped from the Porsche line not wanting to have two different four cylinder cars in competition at their dealerships.

Like the 914/6 and 914, Porsche could have designated the 911 as 911/6 and 911/4. They probably didn't think about it at the time like they did the 914, 924, and 944 as four cylinder cars and the 928 as a eight cylinder car.
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