[Danimal16]

When Checking water plans we used to get the same thing. EVERY district I worked at had standards that were routinely not followed. They, the piss poor engineer, intended to use our plan check for "design by plan check". Some firms were notorious for this tactic. Well, we charged fees for the plan check. If the plans were so bad, we would get through the first page, find one error on the second and send it back. We would charge them for one complete plan check. They got smart real quick.

Many young guys that are going into engineering do not have the natural curiosity that was once characteristic of the profession. In the past many came from the trades. Today these guys are more self absorbed, not all, but the majority. The arrogance has supplanted even rudimentary competence and aptitude.