[onewhippedpuppy]

I've never thought of saving and being frugal as "suffering", even when I was dirt poor. I read and enjoyed "The Millionaire Next Door" and honestly didn't have that thought about the examples in the book either. But the things in my live that I derive happiness from are totally free. Living in an an affordable paid for house, driving used cars, taking reasonable vacations, and having lots of money in the bank....I'm cool with that.