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Originally Posted by Z-man

In my opinion, having a CCW on the scene would help deter the next mass killer, or at least minimize the carnage. Time and again, a mass shooter will off himself once he is met with resistance. This is even the case with the Oregon shooter - the autopsy showed that the killer died of a self-inflicted wound, and not by a police bullet. But it was when the killer was cornered by a resisting force that he killed himself - not before.

Same scenario has occurred time and again with these mass shootings - idiot goes on a rampage - and once he is met with resistance from law enforcement, he turns his weapons on himself.

Another thing to consider - in an active shooter scenario, the shooter is unaware of why type of ammo a CCW is firing at him. He's pumped full of adrenaline, has pinpoint vision, and is definately NOT in a calm state of mind. With those and many other factors at play, he doesn't have the wherewithal to determine if that bullet he just took is enough to penetrate his body armor.

Again - in the Oregon shooting, there was the military fellow who stood up to the shooter - and while he got shot multiple times, the shooter went on to another room where presumably there would be less resistence. Had that man who stood up to him been carrying, the shooter may have killed himself sooner.

Resisting, especially with a firearm, is significantly more effective than the typical 'hide and cower' (ie: shelter in place) line of thought. Shelter in place is not effective against a lunatic's desire to inflict the large amount of chaos possible.

Final point: as others pointed out, this is a mental health issue, not a gun control issue. That is where the effort should be spent.

-Z-man.

But if you are that CCW guy, defending yourself with your .32, wouldn't you prefer the killer not have a 1/2" ballistic chest plate covering his center of mass?