[Craig T]

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese

Grew up on those roads. Sad to see what has become of it. Anybody remember the kid in the Viper who lost it?

You guys are becoming a bunch of Chicken Littles. You say..."Sad to see what has become of it" and show a year old clip of a solo car crash with some numbnuts driving like an idiot in front of the camera. Are you kidding me? There are more crashes, cars on their top, and serious injury on the 405 FWY in a couple months then in the Santa Monica Mtns in the last decade.

In the 60's guys were racing these roads solid axle hot rods. The 70's were notorious for Porsche guys holding road races on Encinal and Mulholland. The area is tame by comparison now.

The Rennlist guys get together for these runs frequently. Nobody crashed of plows into a peloton of cyclists. You can't speed for more than a couple miles before getting hit by CHP with radar anyway. It's just a beautiful cruise with great views and some fun places to stop and eat.

I live five minutes from Mulholland and ride my road bike and drive these roads weekly, sometimes daily going to LA, and I haven't seen a single crash or injured cyclist in years. What scares me most on my bike is the gardeners in old trucks.