I 100% dissagree with this.
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Formula One drivers are the best drivers in the world (save it, NASCAR and rally fans, you know I'm right)
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I have gotten to drive karts with a F1 world champion, as well as NASCAR champions.
The top guys in NASCAR are the top drivers in the world. F1 is a very special skill set that does not apply well outside of F1. The lack of visibility, the sheer speed, the complicated cars requiring constant monitoring of modes. Red Bull might be the only exception with driver talent on par with NASCAR.
But that said, to his point, the NASCAR guys would use traction control to if they could, its one of the reasons they stayed with Carb's so long, NASCAR didn't want to have to police hidden code in ECU's.
I have a tricky local track with dramatic shifts in grip in the pavement, Most F1's are so used to the smooth consistent pavement, they are about 1-2 seconds off pace. A NASCAR driver can visit for their first time, and be in less than .5 seconds after just 2-3 laps. They really are something else.
Both sports have their money drivers, and I'm not comparing those.
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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid
At least for VW, you only have to hold the esc for a few seconds to disengage. I know for Jaguar you have to hold the esc button down for 10 secs to disengage the traction control...
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Its more than 10 seconds, I've timed it.
It also only uses the DSC at low speeds, above, I think 35 or 40MPH, its TC and ABS only. I guess they didn't have the quality of Porsche programming to be comfortable keeping the DSC active at higher speeds. I love it when the DSC kicks in and brakes the inside wheels when making a U-turn.
I also think the car records what goes on when the TC/DSC is turned off, and if it likes what it sees, allows the car to be more aggressive. That or I just got better at not pissing it off.
I never changed the default mode when driving a 2015 911 on an overnight test drive. I found the system to be flawless, an extension of myself in ways I don't have the control inputs to do. (individual wheel braking.) Its an amazing software and hardware package Porsche has. Jaguar, the underlying handling balance of the car isn't that great, and the TC/DSC feels sluggish to activate, then over corrects. I can get in a little too deep, and correct it myself before the Jaguar tries to correct. The Porsche 911 is reacting to every bit of dust or bump in the road, it was perfect and instant as needed.