Getting rid of chinese relays

[mark houghton]

Originally Posted by gsxrken

Nice- that certainly looks like the easiest route to go to get solid-state relays

Except the description mentions coil and points, so I wouldn't call that solid state...just an apparently better engineered standard relay.

[BoxsterGT]

We will see.

Just ordered one.

Len

[mark houghton]

Originally Posted by BoxsterGT

We will see.

Just ordered one.

Len

Considering that our host lists red relays as 'universal' for the same price, a guy can't go wrong. I may order one or two just to have for spares. Let us know how it works out for you.

[BauerR]

I ordered two also

[BoxsterGT]

EXCEPT THE COST ALMOST DOUBLED ($80.00) WITH UPS SHIPPING FOR A $40 PART.

Resto Design does not tell you the shipping cost for 2 ounces of product until shipped.

Len

[BauerR]

Originally Posted by BoxsterGT

EXCEPT THE COST ALMOST DOUBLED ($80.00) WITH UPS SHIPPING FOR A $40 PART.

Resto Design does not tell you the shipping cost for 2 ounces of product until shipped.

Len

The part is $40 US, they charge Canadian . 40us = 55cad + shipping charge in cad.

Same thing happened to me.

[Bucketlist]

When someone is not up front with their shipping cost I keep looking.

[TurboKraft]

Originally Posted by BoxsterGT

EXCEPT THE COST ALMOST DOUBLED ($80.00) WITH UPS SHIPPING FOR A $40 PART.
Resto Design does not tell you the shipping cost for 2 ounces of product until shipped.
-Len

Originally Posted by BauerR

The part is $40 US, they charge Canadian . 40us = 55cad + shipping charge in cad.
Same thing happened to me.

Originally Posted by Bucketlist

When someone is not up front with their shipping cost I keep looking.

I dunno guys, these seems pretty transparent, at least to me..



Maybe I'm misreading the tone here, but this seems like undue criticism.

The relays don't fit in an envelope, so why is it a surprise that international postage for a package isn't cheap? Shipping costs have been going up for years, and hasn't been inexpensive for a long time.
And isn't it common sense that the shipping for just 2x relays isn't going to be that cost effective if you're considering a per-unit landed cost? If you'd ordered in 20x, you'd likely be saying, "wow, the shipping was wasn't much, just $2/each."

I guess that when it's too often difficult these days to get genuine parts for even common mass-production daily drivers, when I find a high-quality part is available to solve a problem on a low-volume classic sportscar, my thoughts aren't about a few extra bucks in shipping costs, but rather, "man, it's great that someone gave enough of a damn to make that."

My $0.02

[BauerR]

Originally Posted by TurboKraft

g]

Maybe I'm misreading the tone here, but this seems like undue criticism.

I'm not criticizing anything at all. Just keeping my eye out for the "final charge" on my card.

I paid for $80 US dollars in parts. However my CC was charged $113.
The US to CAD conversion makes the dollar amount make sense.

I'm ASSuming the conversion rate is what BoxterGT is not realizing

[tops911]

I got their last 2 relays. They called today and said they only had 2 relays left that were used as displays at trade shows that had black covers already on them. They let me have them for the cost of a relay without the cover installed. They said they had an unexpected surge of orders for relays and wondered where I heard about the relays, Pelican of course.

[BoxsterGT]

I wanted to try one since the other relays are so bad. I actually thought it was Solid-state.

I understand exchange rate differences, and was told this was $40 USD.

My complaint was about not being informed of the shipping cost up front.

To my surprise my CC was charged $79.90, double the $40 part cost. I expected perhaps $15 0r $20, NOT $39.90 for such a small package.

Resto Design will have competition in the USA at this rate.

Len

[BauerR]

Originally Posted by BoxsterGT

I wanted to try one since the other relays are so bad. I actually thought it was Solid-state.

I understand exchange rate differences, and was told this was $40 USD.

My complaint was about not being informed of the shipping cost up front.

To my surprise my CC was charged $79.90, double the $40 part cost. I expected perhaps $15 0r $20, NOT $39.90 for such a small package.

Resto Design will have competition in the USA at this rate.

Len

Len,

I know you say you understand the exchange rates but I don't think you're understanding in the context of THIS purchase.

You paid $40 US for a part but were charged in CANADAIN dollars.(It looks higher)

$40 US = $55 CAN

$15-$20 US shipping charge = $20-$27 CAN

$55 CAN + $20-27 CAN shipping = $75-$82 CANADIAN charge.

Your CC was charged in CAN dollars, not US. Hence the appearance of inflated cost

[motorracer]

I have been following I to thought they were solid state.

[RDIWiring]

Hello Pelican Forum folks,

I believe this is my first post on here but hopefully not my last. Nonetheless, just wanted to clear up some technical details about the relays we manufacture at Restoration Design. As per the description, they are not solid state, the relay is still activated by a conventional coil. However, these are high quality ISO relays and with the transient voltage suppression built into the circuit board. This gets you circuit protection and most importantly, regarding the fuel pump or any other electric motor, protection from the inductive loads. This is why there is a diode in the fuel pump relays. In the past month we have introduced a red cover for the relays to simulate the factory fuel pump relay cover. Those should be on the website soon.

Here are some test results from a highly regarded third party: "First test was to run the relay coil engaged with no load on it. I kept it engaged for two months continuously. No issues. Next I put a 4A load on it and cycled the coil 100,000 times ON 1.44 sec OFF 1.44 sec. This worked out to 12,500 cycles for 10 hours per day. 8 days and it was done. No issues Next I more than doubled the load to 11A and ran it for 200 hours cycling ON 12 min OFF 5 sec.
Still no issues. It appears bulletproof."

If anyone is interested, here is a great article written about relays and the different types. https://www.digikey.ca/en/articles/an-introduction-to-relays

Thank you for your support, we have sold nearly all of our inventory, but fear not, they will be restocked next week.

Cheers,
Peter Kocandrle (RD Wiring guy)

[BoxsterGT]

Thank you for the explanation Peter.

I am relieved that so much effort has been put into this product.

I understand also that shipping is an issue across the border. If I had ordered many, the shipping cost per unit would have been much less.

I will keep this relay on hand when my "Red Relay" fails as I expect it will.

This is a great help to the early 911 community.

Len Cummings

[mark houghton]

Originally Posted by RDIWiring

Hello Pelican Forum folks,

I believe this is my first post on here but hopefully not my last. Nonetheless, just wanted to clear up some technical details about the relays we manufacture at Restoration Design. As per the description, they are not solid state, the relay is still activated by a conventional coil. However, these are high quality ISO relays and with the transient voltage suppression built into the circuit board. This gets you circuit protection and most importantly, regarding the fuel pump or any other electric motor, protection from the inductive loads. This is why there is a diode in the fuel pump relays. In the past month we have introduced a red cover for the relays to simulate the factory fuel pump relay cover. Those should be on the website soon.

Here are some test results from a highly regarded third party: "First test was to run the relay coil engaged with no load on it. I kept it engaged for two months continuously. No issues. Next I put a 4A load on it and cycled the coil 100,000 times ON 1.44 sec OFF 1.44 sec. This worked out to 12,500 cycles for 10 hours per day. 8 days and it was done. No issues Next I more than doubled the load to 11A and ran it for 200 hours cycling ON 12 min OFF 5 sec.
Still no issues. It appears bulletproof."

If anyone is interested, here is a great article written about relays and the different types. https://www.digikey.ca/en/articles/an-introduction-to-relays

Thank you for your support, we have sold nearly all of our inventory, but fear not, they will be restocked next week.

Cheers,
Peter Kocandrle (RD Wiring guy)

Peter, you have a captive and receptive audience here...be prepared for an influx of sales. As long as your relays are as robust as we all hope, then your business will thrive.