April '15 Hagerty valuations are out

[kc911s]

Care to discuss? What are your thoughts?

https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vbe=35692

[Jeff NJ]

Holy crap! What happened to cause the jump? A condition 3 example went from about $70k to about $120k in 4 months. That is just nuts.

Here is my car:

[MonroeBoater]

I really, really hope this data is accurate, but I have my doubts! There are quite a few 86-88 930's online that seem to be 3+ cars, according to hagerty's scale, for under 85k with under 60k mileage. Awesome to see the appreciation though. Still going to drive mine whenever I can!

[dos531]

I love my car, but if somebody throws down $120k it'd be hard to say no.

[turbo owner]

Originally Posted by Jeff NJ

Holy crap! What happened to cause the jump? A condition 3 example went from about $70k to about $120k in 4 months. That is just nuts.

Here is my car:

In another thread here on pelican I made comment about Porsche prices headed to Ferrari country, this was about 2 weeks ago. This chart shows Porsche prices are in the express lane to Ferrari prices, as well they should.

Porsches bad boy cars ruled the track, 956 & 962. 930's ruled the streets, and now it's time to play catch up on prices.

[klefroid]

Here is mine




But something isn't right for the 91 turbo I think

[lee88]

This probably captures data from Amelia Island auctions among other transactions in March which set new benchmarks for 930s, at least for #1 and #2 cars.

[turbo owner]

Originally Posted by lee88

This probably captures data from Amelia Island auctions among other transactions in March which set new benchmarks for 930s, at least for #1 and #2 cars.

There are a lot of transactions that are private and Hagerty as an insurance provider, they have a pretty good handle on the real market values.

[voitureltd]

Originally Posted by turbo owner

In another thread here on pelican I made comment about Porsche prices headed to Ferrari country, this was about 2 weeks ago. This chart shows Porsche prices are in the express lane to Ferrari prices, as well they should.

Porsches bad boy cars ruled the track, 956 & 962. 930's ruled the streets, and now it's time to play catch up on prices.

934 and 935s too. As a dealer in exotic cars for decades and experiencing many must have expensive exotics I could never understand why until recently, the 930 was so out of favor. Enjoy the ride.

[Tippy]

I love my car, but if somebody throws down $120k it'd be hard to say no.

I'd sell and wait until things get back in control.

[Norm K]

$132K for my number 3 car. If someone wants to throw down just 75% of that today ... I'll take their measly $99K.

[turbo owner]

Originally Posted by voitureltd

934 and 935s too. As a dealer in exotic cars for decades and experiencing many must have expensive exotics I could never understand why until recently, the 930 was so out of favor. Enjoy the ride.

I'd say 934's & 935's are 930's dressed up as wolves, but a 930 already is a wolf.

[voitureltd]

Originally Posted by kc911s

Care to discuss? What are your thoughts?

https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vbe=35692

Some will say Market place discussion, however it gets a more involved and controversial audience in the turbo thread.

[kc911s]

Makes sense to me to keep a 930 owners conversation in a 930 sub group.

[bpu699]

Holy krap!!! I just saw that too!!!

So, are insurers accepting these values??? I plan to call Monday, to see what State Farm says. I only intend to insure for a #3, but thats still 100k!!!

The interesting thing is, if you read the haggerty definitions of a #3 and #4 car, thats where most of our cars fall??? Geesh, and visible paint blemishes or defects visible to the naked eye make it a #4?

[voitureltd]

Originally Posted by bpu699

Holy krap!!! I just saw that too!!!

The interesting thing is, if you read the haggerty definitions of a #3 and #4 car, thats where most of our cars fall??? Geesh, and visible paint blemishes or defects visible to the naked eye make it a #4?

#4 seems to me to be a general description of a poorly restored and/or previously seriously neglected 930 that would need a complete re do ( $150K or more @ shop rates ), along with locating the right parts, to be in this category.

[bpu699]

Originally Posted by voitureltd

General description of a poorly restored and/or previously seriously neglected 930 that would need a complete re do ( $150K or more @ shop rates ), along with locating the right parts, to be in this category??

Is there a haggerty #5, #6, #7??? I didn't think so...

So then what is a parts car or non runner? A #5?

I would think that most cars would be a #3, but by their definition a driver is a #4?

According to haggerty: paint blemishes, a cracked dash, non original wheels, are a #4....

[Cobalt]

I am shocked to say that they finally got their head out of their butts regarding the 94 turbo 3.6. Still a bit low IMO but far better than the $34k average of a few weeks back. The Amelia island car at $330k obviously made them rethink the value of these cars.

https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch/Report?vbe=107622

[bpu699]

So, how long does this continue...

For all intents this has happened over the last 2-3 years... The run-up in ferraris has been going on for 10 years...

The run up in 356's longer than that...

These numbers boggle the mind. If true, it might be worth giving my 930 a fresh pain job to get it up from a #3... Thats a big delta difference...

[Cobalt]

Originally Posted by bpu699

So, how long does this continue...

For all intents this has happened over the last 2-3 years... The run-up in ferraris has been going on for 10 years...

The run up in 356's longer than that...

These numbers boggle the mind. If true, it might be worth giving my 930 a fresh pain job to get it up from a #3... Thats a big delta difference...

Who knows the further it goes so does the enjoyment factor out the window. You can always paint your car I would enjoy it as is unless you need to sell.