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Last time I had the CIS off my engine, I oriented the hose clamps on the manifold/airbox seals so that I could reach them with a long screwdriver with the CIS on the engine and the engine in the car to make it easier for my future me.
That was my goal too!
But the right-side buttom ones I couldn't find an angle that allowed that. Those ones I couldn't even line up for access with the engine out - I tightened them down before lowering the CIS onto the engine.

The top and front ones weren't an issue at all. The left-side bottom I aligned to access from the back, conceivably you could get to them although not really see when in the car.

But I'm not surprised you found an angle. Just hoping I won't have to have this out again for a while. I'm supposed to torque the head studs again later as part of the break-in (per the book), hopefully I can do that without an engine drop.

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I don't remember whether I was able to get all of them oriented to be easy to reach. I do know that I made an effort to do so. I'll have to go look at my engine and see if I get the ones on the right side that way.
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911 110 394 02 Is the product for sealing the airflow sensor to the air box.
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When attaching the airflow meter to the airflow housing be sure to run the screws down until the compression springs are fully compressed, then back the screws off 1-2 turns. This is the factory "pop-off" valve that is intended to mitigate damage from backfire instead of the aftermarket "toilet seat" that usually becomes an air leak.
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When attaching the airflow meter to the airflow housing be sure to run the screws down until the compression springs are fully compressed, then back the screws off 1-2 turns. This is the factory "pop-off" valve that is intended to mitigate damage from backfire instead of the aftermarket "toilet seat" that usually becomes an air leak.
Sorry but that's just silly. The air box explosion is created when cold start fuel puddles in the distribution chamber beneath the throttle valve, There is no way for pressure to be created beyond the air flow meter into the air filter housing.
What happens is that cold start raw gas is sprayed into the distribution chamber, it puddles and as the cold engine cranks, it runs lean and back fires. If the throttle valve is closed when the back fire hits the standing fuel the pressure is created below the throttle valve and that pressure breaks the air box. The springs holding the air flow meter in place will never see an appreciable amount of pressure.
The flapper valve vents that distribution chamber into the air filter housing to prevent explosive damage.
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I don't remember whether I was able to get all of them oriented to be easy to reach. I do know that I made an effort to do so. I'll have to go look at my engine and see if I get the ones on the right side that way.
Somehow I thought this was a good idea. Just not enough clearance to get a screw driver down and engaged. I eventually gave up, pulled off that header, flipped the clamps, and did it from the back instead.




Also regarding the airbox - I've definitely heard the pop-off slapping back on a few occasions, and have a friend who's un-pop-offed box blew and left him in a real pickle.

Yay for pop-off valves!
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I am still looking at this plugged-off hole on the left side of the left chain cover. It has the big hex-headed plug.
My original configuration had a sensor installed there. Although the wire to it kept failing and hadn't been repaired the most recent time.

Should I attempt to remove the plug and put the sensor back in? Maybe I can worry about it later?

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I am still looking at this plugged-off hole on the left side of the left chain cover. It has the big hex-headed plug.
My original configuration had a sensor installed there. Although the wire to it kept failing and hadn't been repaired the most recent time.

Should I attempt to remove the plug and put the sensor back in? Maybe I can worry about it later?

My memory might be foggy, but I seem to remember that sensor being the thermo time valve that does something for the CIS?
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That’s a temperature probe that activates the cold start injector.
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That’s a temperature probe that activates the cold start injector.
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Ok, might be good to get that hooked up before these new starts in 40 degree weather.
Hopefully the plug screws out easy.
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Not that it makes a difference on your build, I never understood why that cover continued to be cast with the air pump boss, so we just machine it off. We also like using an Allen plug on the sensor hole.
Serves no purpose what so ever, except aesthetics. Fun stuff.

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That hole is where the thermo-time switch goes. It controls the cold start injector. Unless you want hard cold starting, reinstall and hook it back up. Although I simplified my CIS by removing the AAR, AAV, deceleration valve, and related plumbing, I left the TTS and thermo valve (under the left #3 intake runner) connected for ease of cold starting.

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