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Originally Posted by McLovin
The bubble already has ended. For example, prices for 84-89 Carreras are no higher today than they were a year ago. Probably a bit lower.
Same for 308s. He's a little high on his estimates of what those are going for. Those have a huge disadvantage compared to a 911, since (1) they are actually kind of crappy cars, slow, poorly made, and frankly too heavy and not that fun to drive and (2) too expensive to maintain for most. All in all, while there were fewer of them make, their appeal is far less universal.
High production cars like 78-89 911s are going to be affected by the aging demographic. There were a lot of those cars made, a lot still exist, and demand is dropping and will continue to drop in the next 10 years.
IMO nostalgia buying happens most with 40-55 year olds.
Guys who were teens to 20 in the 80s are now roughly late 40s to early 50s. Getting up there as far as buying cars to relive youth. 10 years from now, demand for 80s 911s will be far, far less than it is today.
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nicely written... but
ive had a 930 and now a M491. unlike the usa smog dogs injected cars, not all 308's arent broadly as slow and poorly made as you make them out to be in my experience. early cars yes but the later qv's were screwed together pretty well no worse than my M491. I had a couple of 308's too. u can see here in a period c&d test it was the fastest car at Big Willow followed by a turbo esprit then a M491 carrera (a rare test). for the record, i have an g-body esprit also :-).
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/1984-porsche-911-carrera-archived-road-test-review
the euro qv gtb that ive driven is evey bit as quick as the 3.2's. At a around 2900lbs stock it weighs no more than usa spec m491 dentist spec car. the difference is you can remove the extra fat in a 911 much easier than a 308 if you are track preparing.
308 gr4 tribute cars are the rage in europe now and they are 2200ish pounds. worse thing about a 308 is the drivetrain CG is mounted high up and there isnt much u can do about that. The best thing is that this motor spins to 7700 stock, has more power and dosent feel like blow up like a 3.2 at 6800. Shifting is 1000x more satisfying that a 915 box and much better than a G50 IMO.
maintenance favors the porsche since there are less valves to adjust but in the last 3-5 years the rebuild cost are the same at 15-20K. possibly even more than the fcar since the price gouging on the air-cooled parts. basically the cost of a total rebuild on the 308 has remain somewhat constant while the 911's have increased 3 fold in the last 30 years.
but i still prefer my porsche
just my 2 cents...pf