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Originally Posted by shaunmbenson
Great thread!!!
I'd suggest that under Restoration there is the possibility that "state it never existed in" may not be true as I just read an article about a shop -- in SoCal I think but it escapse me - where they restored an RS as it would have left the factory -- with certain 'imperfections' and bits of tape under paint etc. So perhaps "period factory accurate resto" or some similarly convoluted term could nails those ones down.
I would also suggest under conservation that there are non-factory conservations -- in other words it's conserving through intervention with alteration but sometimes to a later version of the car -- especially a car with provenance. sort of halfway between non-fictional restoration but not to a factory spec
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Shaun... as I get into dialogue like this, want you and all to know that I have no ax to grind here. Goal is to establish definitions that improve our ability to accurately communicate a car's state (in regard to the work that's been done---or not done---to it.) Some definitions will be obvious. Others may need hammering out. I don't care what the definitions are so long as we majorily agree to them.
"State it never existed in" refers back to the original state a car was in when leaving the factory. For example, strip a car's original paint and repaint it exactly as the factory would---or---replace a single washer... given either alteration, that car is now in a "state it never existed in." Are we going to allow exceptions so there are "grey areas" to be accepted? Imagine if we did this... how many washers could be changed before a car goes from being considered a conservation to a restoration? If the artifact of a car is lost when changing a single washer---and it is---then there can be no exceptions to the definitions. It's splitting hairs with washers but I'm testing the definitions by doing so. Seems to me the SoCal place did a fictional resto. (Leaving tape under the paint cannot be a Porsche factory spec & technique.)
A conservation (as defined to date) preserves a car as the factory created it. Being "as the factory created it" means a car leaves the factory in a state of artifact. ANY alteration to a factory's artifact---except for cleaning---terminates the car's "conserved" status. Front or back-dating a car is a significant change to a car's artifact. There's no way such a car can be considered conserved. Seems to me a front-dated car is a restomod. Back-dating could fit under fictional resto due to not following factory specs for the original year of the car. Were any modern advancements made to any area of a back-dated car, that would also make the same car a restomod. Clearly, a car can have a hybrid status.