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Originally Posted by Tervuren View Post
I have never lost an argument here.

I've either received a correction to a wrong view of mine, and thus benefited by the correction, which is not a loss, but a gain. Or I just shake my head and enjoy the weather outside as I step away, also not a loss.
Very nice.

Listen to all of the facts. If, based on the facts, you determine that you were wrong, if you can admit it, then you should have learned something. And from a certain point of view, you lost the arguement, but you did not lose.

You can, if you have them present facts. If you see the facts (all of them from both sides) and are certain that your side is correct based on the facts, stop before it devolves to name calling and mud-slinging. Then you won. If you are the name caller and mud-slinger, then you lost whether your point/side of the argument was the factually correct side or not.

The first option is unlikely. Apparently, human nature doesn't work that way.
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/

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The Misconception: When your beliefs are challenged with facts, you alter your opinions and incorporate the new information into your thinking.

The Truth: When your deepest convictions are challenged by contradictory evidence, your beliefs get stronger.
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