pwd72s, don't stop talking. Some Jüngsters do listen, and if you don't talk, they can't learn.
I'm slowly grinding myself to financial independence through real estate investing. My parents starting buying rental properties in the early 80s. Obviously, someone was paying attention, don't ya think? I was prepared for a boring engineering career wielding pencils and keyboards, but my weapons of choice are hammers, paint brushes, power tools, ratty old foreclosures, and tenants from Hades. I wouldn't have it any other way, though...
Sometimes, I like to make my own mistakes. Mistakes defeat false pride.
Take care,
Jürgen