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Aurel, the only thing that's hard to understand is that you really believe what you write. Appeasement? Are you kidding me? When has this ever been an effective strategy? These are people that want to KILL us. They don't care what we do, or who we are, they are indiscriminate murderers. I don't need to understand why they want to murder us (as if we ever could) this is not OUR fault. We need to STOP them and sometimes that involves death. The world is an ugly place sometimes, not everybody sees things like you or I do. Some people just want to destroy everything around them, there's no "reasoning" with that.
dd74 if you liked the movie, read the book, an excellent lesson to be learned. Do you know why that happened? The US did not have a single tank in the region. Why? Clinton felt that would appear too "agressive" on our part and didn't want to offend anyone. Someone had to explain to him "why" our troops refused to leave anyone dead or alive behind. He had neither the ability or the stomach to be commander in chief. Talk about derelict, after this happened, what did we do? Got the hell out of there as fast as we could, nothing says appeasement like running away. Helicopter insertion in the middle of the day to "capture" a warlord in the middle of a city armed to the teeth with absolutely no armor back up. The actual rescue was delayed for hours as to not piss off the UN by sending the wrong army to help us. This is the definition of derelict.
This has virtually no comparison to Vietnam. We never went to SE Asia to win. When you set up areas like the 38th parallel to allow the enemy to retreat and regroup, you set yourself up for failure. We are NOT bogged down in Iraq. We are trying to do something that has never been done before by anyone. Exit strategy is hard, especially when you want the indigenous people to reclaim their land. This is not a "war of attrition" like vietnam, we are trying to win and succeeding. We are not "begging" the UN for help, we are allowing them to take part if they want, under our rules, if we turned it over to the UN, it would THEN become an "unwinnable quagmire".
Pete
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